Wednesday, September 12, 2007 || Kristin lands role in "Green Flash"
Production has begun on the feature film "Green Flash", a sports-action drama set deep inside the world of pro beach volleyball. The film is shooting throughout Los Angeles and in Manhattan Beach, the home of beach volleyball.
Zep Tepi Entertainment has begun production on the feature film "Green Flash", a sports-action drama set deep inside the world of pro beach volleyball. The film is shooting throughout Los Angeles and in Manhattan Beach, the home of beach volleyball.
"Green Flash" stars "Baywatch" hunk and world-recognized recording artist David Charvet who returns to the screen to reclaim his "king of the beach" status. Co-stars are Torrey DeVitto ("One Tree Hill", "Beautiful People"), Kristin Cavallari ("Laguna Beach"), Brody Hutzler ("Days of Our Lives", "Legally Blonde"), and Jaleel White ("Dreamgirls", "Family Matters").
Kristin seems more mature now that shes hooked up with Nick. She seems happy and not at all like the attention ho she used to be. I never was a team Kristin person but I have to admit she does seem more mature and together than the hills group. Hills girls are just like high school girls with their "OMG BFF" partying attitudes. I know they are young but dang grow up just a little.
"They could learn alot from Kristin." Really? How would anyone know what Kristin is about? None of us have seen or heard anything about her or her life since Laguna. That's a blind statement if ever I've heard one. I'm glad Kristin is happy. Good for her! As for her being mature... we have no way of knowing. The Hills girls and they're OMG BFF's pull in 4.4 million viewers. Should they grow up? Sure! But we'll keep watching and so will you. lol
What was 'read' was Kristin setting an example for the Hills girls. Let's own up to what was said shall we? :) It being no big deal is correct. It making no sense was also correct. Keep up the great work.lol
I agree 2;56 I sure didn't take it that you were bashing anyone so indeed keep up the good work. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I agree with yours.
Some people are way to sensitive and take this far too seriously. LOL you would think they know these girls personally and defend them.LMAO. Yeah keep up the good work.
"You would think they know these girls personally and defend them. LMAO" Why, yes, 2:56 knows Kristin personally! :) She knows how mature she is among other things. When she's called on it she hides behind the old: don't take it so seriously! LMAO! Man, you people are bored! Got nothing else to do but play games! LOL! Keep up the good work! LMAO!!!
On the contrary 3:14. We have heard quite a bit about Kristin since LB. There a lot more blogs and sights than LB hookup.
I didn't care much for Kristin when she was on LB or soon after but what I Have read has been so positive. I personally don't know any of the women and I doubt if anyone else on here does either so anything we say is strictly a personal opinion or comment. Honestly no need to bash a poster for a comment. I will continue to post my opinion and if you like it fine if you don't then please feel free to say your "grow up"s) and "silly" if it makes you feel better:>)
For the record I like Kristin and I like the hills girls. I was just making a personal observation and comment. I truly didn't mean to start a freakin battle.
4:02 You must be as bored as the rest of us since you felt the need to post a response:>) I don't believe I was hiding behind anything, I stand by my original post as that was my thoughts and my opinion. No one said anyone had to agree and I do think everyone is taking this way too serious. It;s just a forum people!
Now before you all jump all over me again let me repeat and I hope you can understand what you read.
It was just a comment! It was just a personal opinion! Like it was said before you people are waaaaaay to sensitive and take this way too much to heart.
Nite all but I will be back:) I just know you're looking forward to it since some of you seem to be looking for an argument. Sleep well all.
I think both Kristin and Lauren have matured a lot. I'm the opposite in that I didn't like Lauren on LB, but like her a lot more now.
I do see what you're getting at though with Kristin being "more mature" - I think it really has to do with being in a long term relationship and settling down. Lauren's single and 21. Maybe if she's acting the same way in five years, but for now I think she's fairly normal for 21. Although I agree the BFF thing can get a little silly.
Kristin is a H list actress and is going to be in a movie with c and d list actors. uh Yay? LOL Somehow I don't see this as a terrific career move. It will bomb like her other movies and tv show did.
I guess for the few Kristin fans out there it will be nice for you to get to see her. I will be surprised if the movie even gets released to a theatre and not go directly to DVD rentals.
Kristin has other movies going to theatres, and who cares how great these movies are or who's in them, she just starting out and there are WAY more than a "few" kristin fans, get over yourself hater! Not only is Kristin Gorgeous, but she can keep a boyfriend for over a year(unlike 1 date} and is young and having fun.
You said it 5:01! another poster put it well when she said she is an H list actress. Now before someone shouts that I'm a hater ( LOL) just think about it. It's true.
I do like seeing her more settled with Nick. She seems happy and I;m sure that means more to her than any comments on this board. She just needs to not try to gain fame. It ain't going to happen.
I can't wait to see all of her movies, theatre or Dvd, Love her, and I think she will definitely catch a bigger break soon, although she does seem happy in her relationship and out of the spotlight.
Tread boys and friends like crap. She even moved in on Jessica's crush when she was trying to get over Jason. Even tho Kristen urged Jessica to do so she moved right in for the kiss on Jessicas date. She's no better then Heidi.
What's pathetic is that you don't get it. I don't care if it was 10 years ago she was a ho and acted as one.
Scripted or not she moved in on her best friends boy. She and Jessica discussed it so it was not edited to make the ho bag look bad.
People don't change that much and she will probably be cheating on Nick before too long if she hasn't already. Gossip columns probably because THEY DON"T CARE LOL She's a nobody:>)
imo LC was and is the best looking. Kristin didn't have much "substance" seemed to be all about her but then again at that age it always is.
She is a very pretty girl though and I wish all the laguna ladies that are pursing a career the best of luck. Except Heidi and she was only on a few episodes of LB so it doesn't really count. LOL
I Love Kristin! Her and Nick look so happy together, And Yes people can change, she was 17, give her a break. Also, cant wait to see her movies when they come out. she's a beautiful girl and IA always was the prettiest LB girl
Pretty is as pretty does and she is not that pretty and I'm sorry to say I think she has no talent. JUst MHO.
I actually think Jessica was the prettiest of them all. She was just the kind to be a second banana and that's a shame. She's made some mistakes since LB aired and I hope she is okay now. I always thought she was prettier than kristen and defintely prettier than alex and didn't act as spoiled as Kristin did.
IA pretty is as pretty does...she f*ed everyone close to her at one point or another. There was never any substance to this girl. She can't keep relationships longterm (either friends or boyfriends). There is something to be said about that. It's only a matter of time until she's sleeping with one of her next co-stars to gain fame. Mark my words!
I love how some people are saying "she's staying out of the spotlight and prefers it that way". Uh, i don't think she has a choice. The reason why she's not in the spotlight as much is because: NO ONE CARES about her in Hollywood as much anymore. It's true. She lost the initial spark that she had, and Hollywood is very fickle. I highly doubt she'll get a second chance when her first chance was hardly anything at all. Time go go back to school Kristin and think about a Plan B.
Can't keep a relationship? she dated brody for like a year and a half and nick for almost a year, I would say that's long term for a 20 year old girl. She's gorgeous, and yes people do still care about her and her movies and career, get over it haters.
ahh lets see now. Stephen, the college boy at the beginning of season 2. Talon, Brody, Nich Lachey and now Nick WOW that's 6 guys all ready that we know of and she admitted to hooking up with all the LB guys at one time or another and who knows how many there have been in between the 6 mentioned and she's how old? This girl really gets around. LOL
Yeah stephen..her BOYFRIEND she was on and off with for 3 years. Talan( so what, Lauren slept with him too} Brody her boyfriend of a year and a half, Nick Lachey( don't know for sure) and now nick for a year, wow she really does get around, LMAO...now lets count how many one daters laurens had and slept with, that's class.
Iwonder if Kristen still pole dances with a short skirt on on top of a bar. Now THAT'S CLASS LMAO. It wouldn't be the same though if she did since there aren't millions of viewers watching her now.
Moving on now so why don't you take some midol and rest 11;46. You're much to over wrought and need to calm down a bit. LOL
^ IDK, maybe you're the one that needs to relax instead of calling kristin out on things from 3 years ago. At least she has had normal healthy relationships and not just party every night and randomly hook up with guys, that is sooo classy.
HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS! OMG LMAO!!!! If you think it's healthy to sleep with everyone, act like a hooker on national TV and embarass your family then I feel sorry for any and all children you might have. Kristen was an embarrassment to teenagers that have morals. A role model? I think not. Now go take your pills and lie down. LOL Getting to you is as easy as it is for guys to get Kristen to bed.
^ You have issues! I said RELATIONSHIPS..ya know that's when you have a BOYFRIEND for a long period of time..understand, that's the difference between her and LC NOW! K,get it, you sure have a lot of time on your hands to bash kristin...hmmm.
and you sure have a lot of time to answer blogs that are obviously trying to get to you and it obviously works. LOL Get a life. I have a life but It was so fun getting your goat. You are too easy and way too defensive of the ho but you obviously have no life so I understand.
Keep up the good work of defending girls who are immoral skanks. They need someone like you in their corner. LOL
I have a date and I won't be pole dancing or drinking or sleeping with the guy. GOod thing I didn't make Kristen my role model and yes my mom abd Dad are very proud of me as I am of myself. It's called MORALS look it up in the dictionary. Poor KRisten she will have to live with what she has done the rest of her life now THAT'S PATHETIC.
Nite and goodbye and get a life.
Lets give the rest of the people who are nice a rest from the bickering.
Let's not forget SAM! Sam probably got busy with Kristin too. Sorry, but 3 years ago is not that long ago. Kristin has made no qualms about her sex life. She likes boys and she likes sex. Lot's of it. Then and now. You can't hide a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Kristin has changed completely, she doesn't go out partying and she's settled down with a nice guy, good for her, IA the people complaining about the things she did on LB should seriously get past that, I mean we could go on and on and on about LC, but what's the point?
^True. But there's just something that screams "low class" about Kristin. HHmmm.... maybe the multiple pictorals of her half naked and or practically naked in oh let's see.. those really respectable men's mags like Stuff and Maxim? I don't know about you, but no respectable classy girl would do that.
yeah and what about the boy she was making out with in Cabo when stephen called her a slut. I believe Jessica asked her if she "hooked up" with him and Kristen grinned but didn't answer her.
^Oh, and just because she did it at 17 that means it doesn't count? What? You have to be over 18 for "ho-ish" behaviors to qualify you a ho? If she acted like one, then she is one. Who cares how old she was. If she were single, she'd probably act the same way. That's her dating style.
^ well she's not single and hasn't been in a long time, you're confusing her with Lauren who goes on one date with each guy and has sex, classy ho! also that was 4 years ago, most girls are usually a liitle more wild in their teens and then settle down, not the other way around.
^Stop making things up. Who says Lauren is having sex with the guys she dates? She doesn't even kiss on the first date. Not much could be said about Kristin. Dating and ho'ing are not the same thing. Maybe your definition of dating needs to be re-evaluated. You and Kristin are one in the same it looks like. Figures.
Lauren is more conservative, Kristin is not. Not complicated people. I love how Lauren haters label her a ho. You may not like her, but she's far from it. I actually know someone who is friends with Lo and based on what she tells me from her conversations about Lauren. Lauren doesn't sleep around.
I agree she probobly doesn't sleep around, but she's been with her fair share of guys. I mean, stephen, Talan Brody, none of them were even dating her, she's no angel.
And how exactly do you know that she did sleep with them? I would guess Stephen most likely. But Talan and Brody? I know Kristin has been with all three, without a doubt. If you tally up Kristin and Lauren's conquests. I would think Kristin has Lauren beat.
Well at least kristin dated two of them for a long time and they All actually wanted to be in a serious relationship with her, more than I can say for LC
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Yay Kristin!
:)
Glad she's doing well, and it's nice to hear some news about her too.
I hope we see a lot more of her soon, Love her.
Kristin seems more mature now that shes hooked up with Nick. She seems happy and not at all like the attention ho she used to be. I never was a team Kristin person but I have to admit she does seem more mature and together than the hills group. Hills girls are just like high school girls with their "OMG BFF" partying attitudes. I know they are young but dang grow up just a little.
They could learn a thing or two from Kristin.
"They could learn alot from Kristin."
Really? How would anyone know what Kristin is about?
None of us have seen or heard anything about her or her life since Laguna. That's a blind statement if ever I've heard one.
I'm glad Kristin is happy.
Good for her!
As for her being mature...
we have no way of knowing.
The Hills girls and they're OMG BFF's pull in 4.4 million viewers.
Should they grow up? Sure!
But we'll keep watching and so will you. lol
2:56. If this is a Kristin post why are bringing the Hills girls into it? Sounds like another Kristin vs. other girls statement.
Silly.
and yet another case of someone reading something into something that isn't there. Yes. silly.
It was just a comment that was MHO no big deal. The post about kristing was on the hills sight so anything goes.
silly. LOL
Good for Kristin.
Don't bash others in congradulating Kristin.
Grow up 2:56....!
*congratulating.
What was 'read' was Kristin setting an example for the Hills girls.
Let's own up to what was said shall we? :)
It being no big deal is correct.
It making no sense was also correct.
Keep up the great work.lol
I agree 2;56 I sure didn't take it that you were bashing anyone so indeed keep up the good work. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I agree with yours.
Some people are way to sensitive and take this far too seriously. LOL you would think they know these girls personally and defend them.LMAO. Yeah keep up the good work.
"You would think they know these girls personally and defend them.
LMAO"
Why, yes, 2:56 knows Kristin personally! :)
She knows how mature she is among other things.
When she's called on it she hides behind the old:
don't take it so seriously! LMAO!
Man, you people are bored!
Got nothing else to do but play games! LOL!
Keep up the good work!
LMAO!!!
On the contrary 3:14. We have heard quite a bit about Kristin since LB. There a lot more blogs and sights than LB hookup.
I didn't care much for Kristin when she was on LB or soon after but what I Have read has been so positive.
I personally don't know any of the women and I doubt if anyone else on here does either so anything we say is strictly a personal opinion or comment. Honestly no need to bash a poster for a comment. I will continue to post my opinion and if you like it fine if you don't then please feel free to say your "grow up"s) and "silly" if it makes you feel better:>)
For the record I like Kristin and I like the hills girls. I was just making a personal observation and comment. I truly didn't mean to start a freakin battle.
I love Kristin and wish ALL you girls would shut up. You're ruining the board. Go Kristin!!!
4:02 You must be as bored as the rest of us since you felt the need to post a response:>) I don't believe I was hiding behind anything, I stand by my original post as that was my thoughts and my opinion. No one said anyone had to agree and I do think everyone is taking this way too serious. It;s just a forum people!
Now before you all jump all over me again let me repeat and I hope you can understand what you read.
It was just a comment! It was just a personal opinion! Like it was said before you people are waaaaaay to sensitive and take this way too much to heart.
Nite all but I will be back:) I just know you're looking forward to it since some of you seem to be looking for an argument. Sleep well all.
I never liked Kristin, but I'm happy for her.
I LUV Kristin! good for her.
4:02-it's best to ignore some comments-even when they don't make sense.
I have to agree with 4:08 on this one.
Congrats to Kristin!
I think both Kristin and Lauren have matured a lot. I'm the opposite in that I didn't like Lauren on LB, but like her a lot more now.
I do see what you're getting at though with Kristin being "more mature" - I think it really has to do with being in a long term relationship and settling down. Lauren's single and 21. Maybe if she's acting the same way in five years, but for now I think she's fairly normal for 21. Although I agree the BFF thing can get a little silly.
Not a kristin fan but more power to her for landing the role.
It just seems she's more mature because no one knows. Why? Because no one cares. No media scrutiny.
It's unnecessary to jump on 2:56 when it was just an opinion.
We have enough silly arguments on here.
Regardless it's good to hear she's doing well.
I agree. I saw nothing argumenative about 2:56 opinion but too many people seem to want to start an argument.
I wish all the ladies from LB well and will look forward to seeing Kristin in the movie.
Kristin is a H list actress and is going to be in a movie with c and d list actors. uh Yay? LOL Somehow I don't see this as a terrific career move. It will bomb like her other movies and tv show did.
I guess for the few Kristin fans out there it will be nice for you to get to see her. I will be surprised if the movie even gets released to a theatre and not go directly to DVD rentals.
^ouch. obviously not a kristin fan.
wonder who she slept with this time. LOL Let;s face it the girl was a ho on LB and probably still is.
Kristin has other movies going to theatres, and who cares how great these movies are or who's in them, she just starting out and there are WAY more than a "few" kristin fans, get over yourself hater!
Not only is Kristin Gorgeous, but she can keep a boyfriend for over a year(unlike 1 date} and is young and having fun.
^Agreed
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Love her too!
Kristin who???? Seriously, will this chic ever land a gig that we'll actually see??
You said it 5:01! another poster put it well when she said she is an H list actress. Now before someone shouts that I'm a hater ( LOL) just think about it. It's true.
I do like seeing her more settled with Nick. She seems happy and I;m sure that means more to her than any comments on this board. She just needs to not try to gain fame. It ain't going to happen.
yep 6:17 you nailed it.
I can't wait to see all of her movies, theatre or Dvd, Love her, and I think she will definitely catch a bigger break soon, although she does seem happy in her relationship and out of the spotlight.
She was such a wh ore in LB.
Tread boys and friends like crap. She even moved in on Jessica's crush when she was trying to get over Jason. Even tho Kristen urged Jessica to do so she moved right in for the kiss on Jessicas date. She's no better then Heidi.
^ It's a reality show! edited and scripted, Get over something that happened 4 years ago, it's pathetic, seriously!
What's pathetic is that you don't get it. I don't care if it was 10 years ago she was a ho and acted as one.
Scripted or not she moved in on her best friends boy. She and Jessica discussed it so it was not edited to make the ho bag look bad.
People don't change that much and she will probably be cheating on Nick before too long if she hasn't already. Gossip columns probably because THEY DON"T CARE LOL She's a nobody:>)
Amen 5:39!
I LUV KRISTEN! SHE'S NOT GOOD IN THE MOVIES THO.
If you don't like her move past the post.
I loved her on Laguna and still do.
She's still the best looking one from it imo.
imo LC was and is the best looking. Kristin didn't have much "substance" seemed to be all about her but then again at that age it always is.
She is a very pretty girl though and I wish all the laguna ladies that are pursing a career the best of luck. Except Heidi and she was only on a few episodes of LB so it doesn't really count. LOL
I Love Kristin! Her and Nick look so happy together, And Yes people can change, she was 17, give her a break. Also, cant wait to see her movies when they come out. she's a beautiful girl and IA always was the prettiest LB girl
Pretty is as pretty does and she is not that pretty and I'm sorry to say I think she has no talent. JUst MHO.
I actually think Jessica was the prettiest of them all. She was just the kind to be a second banana and that's a shame. She's made some mistakes since LB aired and I hope she is okay now.
I always thought she was prettier than kristen and defintely prettier than alex and didn't act as spoiled as Kristin did.
^I also thought Jessica was very pretty. More of a natural beauty.
Agree with the person wishing all the LB girls good luck...except Heidiho.
Kristin is far prettier than Jessica, But I love them both, and they are both naturally pretty!
IA pretty is as pretty does...she f*ed everyone close to her at one point or another. There was never any substance to this girl. She can't keep relationships longterm (either friends or boyfriends). There is something to be said about that. It's only a matter of time until she's sleeping with one of her next co-stars to gain fame. Mark my words!
I love how some people are saying "she's staying out of the spotlight and prefers it that way". Uh, i don't think she has a choice. The reason why she's not in the spotlight as much is because: NO ONE CARES about her in Hollywood as much anymore. It's true. She lost the initial spark that she had, and Hollywood is very fickle. I highly doubt she'll get a second chance when her first chance was hardly anything at all. Time go go back to school Kristin and think about a Plan B.
Can't keep a relationship? she dated brody for like a year and a half and nick for almost a year, I would say that's long term for a 20 year old girl. She's gorgeous, and yes people do still care about her and her movies and career, get over it haters.
ahh lets see now. Stephen, the college boy at the beginning of season 2. Talon, Brody, Nich Lachey and now Nick WOW that's 6 guys all ready that we know of and she admitted to hooking up with all the LB guys at one time or another and who knows how many there have been in between the 6 mentioned and she's how old? This girl really gets around. LOL
You're right. It's pathetic!
Yeah stephen..her BOYFRIEND she was on and off with for 3 years. Talan( so what, Lauren slept with him too} Brody her boyfriend of a year and a half, Nick Lachey( don't know for sure) and now nick for a year, wow she really does get around, LMAO...now lets count how many one daters laurens had and slept with, that's class.
Kristen is a walking advertisement on how to get an STD or two and pass em around LOL
Iwonder if Kristen still pole dances with a short skirt on on top of a bar. Now THAT'S CLASS LMAO. It wouldn't be the same though if she did since there aren't millions of viewers watching her now.
Moving on now so why don't you take some midol and rest 11;46. You're much to over wrought and need to calm down a bit. LOL
^ IDK, maybe you're the one that needs to relax instead of calling kristin out on things from 3 years ago. At least she has had normal healthy relationships and not just party every night and randomly hook up with guys, that is sooo classy.
HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS! OMG LMAO!!!!
If you think it's healthy to sleep with everyone, act like a hooker on national TV and embarass your family then I feel sorry for any and all children you might have. Kristen was an embarrassment to teenagers that have morals. A role model? I think not. Now go take your pills and lie down. LOL Getting to you is as easy as it is for guys to get Kristen to bed.
^ You have issues! I said RELATIONSHIPS..ya know that's when you have a BOYFRIEND for a long period of time..understand, that's the difference between her and LC NOW! K,get it, you sure have a lot of time on your hands to bash kristin...hmmm.
and you sure have a lot of time to answer blogs that are obviously trying to get to you and it obviously works. LOL Get a life. I have a life but It was so fun getting your goat. You are too easy and way too defensive of the ho but you obviously have no life so I understand.
Keep up the good work of defending girls who are immoral skanks. They need someone like you in their corner. LOL
I have a date and I won't be pole dancing or drinking or sleeping with the guy. GOod thing I didn't make Kristen my role model and yes my mom abd Dad are very proud of me as I am of myself. It's called MORALS look it up in the dictionary. Poor KRisten she will have to live with what she has done the rest of her life now THAT'S PATHETIC.
Nite and goodbye and get a life.
Lets give the rest of the people who are nice a rest from the bickering.
Let's not forget SAM! Sam probably got busy with Kristin too. Sorry, but 3 years ago is not that long ago. Kristin has made no qualms about her sex life. She likes boys and she likes sex. Lot's of it. Then and now. You can't hide a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Kristin has changed completely, she doesn't go out partying and she's settled down with a nice guy, good for her, IA the people complaining about the things she did on LB should seriously get past that, I mean we could go on and on and on about LC, but what's the point?
^True. But there's just something that screams "low class" about Kristin. HHmmm.... maybe the multiple pictorals of her half naked and or practically naked in oh let's see.. those really respectable men's mags like Stuff and Maxim? I don't know about you, but no respectable classy girl would do that.
yeah and what about the boy she was making out with in Cabo when stephen called her a slut. I believe Jessica asked her if she "hooked up" with him and Kristen grinned but didn't answer her.
I have to agree this little lady has a problem.
^ she was 17! get over it.
^Oh, and just because she did it at 17 that means it doesn't count? What? You have to be over 18 for "ho-ish" behaviors to qualify you a ho? If she acted like one, then she is one. Who cares how old she was. If she were single, she'd probably act the same way. That's her dating style.
^ well she's not single and hasn't been in a long time, you're confusing her with Lauren who goes on one date with each guy and has sex, classy ho! also that was 4 years ago, most girls are usually a liitle more wild in their teens and then settle down, not the other way around.
^Stop making things up. Who says Lauren is having sex with the guys she dates? She doesn't even kiss on the first date. Not much could be said about Kristin. Dating and ho'ing are not the same thing. Maybe your definition of dating needs to be re-evaluated. You and Kristin are one in the same it looks like. Figures.
^ How do you know what lauren does on dates?? Give me a break, you do not know her.
Lauren is more conservative, Kristin is not. Not complicated people. I love how Lauren haters label her a ho. You may not like her, but she's far from it. I actually know someone who is friends with Lo and based on what she tells me from her conversations about Lauren. Lauren doesn't sleep around.
I agree she probobly doesn't sleep around, but she's been with her fair share of guys. I mean, stephen, Talan Brody, none of them were even dating her, she's no angel.
And how exactly do you know that she did sleep with them? I would guess Stephen most likely. But Talan and Brody? I know Kristin has been with all three, without a doubt. If you tally up Kristin and Lauren's conquests. I would think Kristin has Lauren beat.
Well at least kristin dated two of them for a long time and they All actually wanted to be in a serious relationship with her, more than I can say for LC
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